Showing posts with label forums. Show all posts
Showing posts with label forums. Show all posts

Monday, November 17, 2008

M is listening - honestly!

Instead of dealing with the growing frustration caused by lack of communication in the FORUM lets all go down to the blog today we know we'll get a big surprise - Sorry if I seem a little jaded but what the H***
Since the open spaces announcement and charade of a forum *discussion all we see is the good news touting Lindens obviously trying to mask the true state of Secondlife with pep talks that hopefully fool no-one.
Luckily I am of the opinion that ANY outside company looking for a solution in SL will also look at Resident run blogs and real life press about the poor way Linden treat their PAYING customers, I am optimistic that NO corporation would want to deal with a company with so little respect for its customers.
Its great Secondlife is so transparent with its 'Q3 closed on a high note with an unusually strong September' and the mainland cleanup goes on - 'Progress Update regarding the recent Advertising Policy' I just wonder if Linden realises none of this matters? Real companies research before they invest, maybe Linden Lab need to realise public relations are one of the first things corporate businesses look at.
The Solution Providers Update from Glenn Linden just makes Linden Lab look even more desperate for money (sorry Glen, but timing is everything) - bleeding the residents is not enough.
I have always tried to remain objective but it's getting much harder to do. I read with interest Zee Lindens forum and have to admit he did a great job of actually responding and answering many questions, we may disagree on his numbers but at least he bothered to engage with the residents. He is a shining example of a Linden, not perfect but willing to admit Linden Lab messed it up!
"A better way to say it would have been to say that its our fault because we didn't put the proper restrictions on them and then they were naturally used for more than they were intended. Its our mistake. Really. I mean it. Completely our mistake." Zee Linden

The communications officer? You can read for yourself how she dealt with frustrated residents and I will say she needs to take a look at her condescending attitude and remember the residents are not children playing a game but adults many of whom make a real living out of SL and run businesses in the real world also.

The long awaited reply from M Linden finally happened after 2600+ posts, short and not so sweet;
Everybody,
This has been a very robust thread with a lot of dialog and back and forth. I've kept up with all the posts as you've shared them. Since most were specific to the price change, I thought Jack -- the person responsible for Land here at Linden Lab -- would be the best person to answer them. In addition to the posts here, I have gotten a lot of emails and note cards from residents with many thoughts, ideas, concerns, some anger and frustration but also messages of hope and support. Thank you all for sharing your views so profusely!
There is a lot of feedback that will be very useful as we evolve our land product further.
Thank you again for sharing your thinking and your feelings.
Best,
M Linden.

I find it amazing that if he was reading the forum and thought Jack "would be the best person to answer" that he didn't ask Jack to do exactly that, but nobody got the chance to reply as the forum thread was closed just 4 posts later.

In the meantime the SOS movement grows stronger, SOS is no longer simply a group in Second Life, but rather a legally formed non-profit organizaton known as “The Grid Representation Foundation” doing business as SOS.

I will leave this for now as I just find it pathetic and hope that RL companies properly research before thinking of investing in SL the way many residents have done.
Dana Vanmoer

Friday, September 5, 2008

Lindens move on ad-farms

"In this blog post I will be talking about Ad Farming. As with my previous post, I’d like to then move the discussion into the forums so that as many of you as possible can give us your opinion.
Please keep in mind that this post is about the Linden Mainland, and does not apply to private islands where the estate owners choose how they wish to run their own estates.

The good news therefore, is that Network advertising (Ad Farming) will no longer be permitted on the Linden Mainland unless you have a written agreement with Linden Lab (essentially meaning a license to advertise). Anyone currently operating such a business inworld will need to remove their adverts by the 1st October 2008."

Read the full blog post HERE or join the forum debate HERE

"No more spinning, floating cubes, no more unsolicited notecard givers, no more improper use of ban lines."

Thursday, August 28, 2008

Eye on the Blog - Changes to Give Residents More Choices

From the BLOG:

Some Residents have told me they worry the Linden Lab Blog is quieter than usual, and that this may reflect a decreased commitment by us to communication. In fact, the opposite is true. We’re making changes to enhance dialogue with you through adding better tools and organization along with fewer constraints.
Limitations of the Current Blog and Forums
The current blog has become unwieldy and messy because there is no way to categorize posts. Tag clouds, categories and search are inadequate tools for finding what you’re looking for. And we often hear that it can be frustrating to try and have meaningful exchanges about the original post because of the 150 message cut-off and the difficulty highlighting key comments among all the messages.Similarly the current forum software is outdated, barely functioning and lacks important features that would enhance conversation between posters.

There follows after this a list of upcoming changes and plans to both the Blog and the Forum tying both more closely together.
Many voices have been raised for a long time about the lack of communication from the Lindens and the forum has, until recently, mostly been ignored by them, not even updating the software needed to keep them running smoothly.
A lot of concern is raised therefore in whether the Lindens will actually bother to maintain a new version - or maybe they are hoping that software can make up for human intervention especially as the moderation with be outsourced (causing more concern about less Linden communication and involvement).
I guess we shall have to wait and see as always with anything proposed by Linden Lab - the proof is in the eating.
Dana

Friday, August 1, 2008

Eye on the blog - new forum discussions

Wow the Lindens are listening and actively taking part in the forums - if you haven't ever see the forums you need to go to http://forums.secondlife.com/ and log in with your secondlife user name and password, then you will be able to join in the discussions.
Its long been considered just a place to let off steam with other like minded Residents as it has been fairly obvious the Lindens had backed off any kind of real communication - look at the JIRA so many issues ignored and not even looked at, on the one hand they ask us to use it on the other is the amount of outstanding issues, but that's another issue.

This time Catherine Linden has invited Residents to take part in discussions in an experiment in communications and "Try out a “live discussion” with us, in the Forums, where we’ll read along and answer questions, for the next 3 days. "

The first discussion will last 72 hours and be on the hot subject of VAT charges:
"First Forum Discussion Topic: VAT
Recently Zee Linden noticed a number of questions about Linden Lab’s charging European Residents VAT, from comments on M’s blog post about his first 60 days at Linden Lab. Zee wanted to answer some of those questions, and so VAT will be our first Forum Discussion topic."

The discussion thread can be found here:
Having a quick look at the discussion in 8 pages I see few responses coming from the Lindens and some very valid points raised by residents, we will have to see if this is a genuine attempt at realistic communication. I guess I am an optimist and I would love to beileve this is a step in the right direction but right now it does not look promising. A new way to get us to let off steam and keep it out of the public eye? That's the cynic in me I guess.

Join in and see what you think yourself.
Dana