Tuesday, February 26, 2008

Zero Linden & Rob Linden


[13:06] Zero Linden: what is that sound?
[13:06] Harleen Gretzky: The spiing cube headcrab zombies in MF's land
[13:07] Zero Linden: there - that's better
[13:08] Rob Linden: hi folks
[13:08] Everyone: hi rob
[13:08] Zero Linden: welcome all to my office hours - now with less zoombies!
[13:09] Zero Linden: likes the notion of zombie as a mass noun
[13:09] Zero Linden: okay, all discussion is in public here - speak clearly, right into the wiki....
[13:09] Zero Linden: testing.... one, two, three....
[13:09] Zero Linden: is this thing on?
[13:09] Zha Ewry: hlkjgkj kjfgyut8 kghikyu56967togl.,
[13:10] Zero Linden: Zha - that can and will be used against you in a court of the internet!
[13:11] Zero Linden: Well - seems that our nemsis, multi-agent chat (including group IM), is just a very very difficult dragon to control
[13:11] Zero Linden: Do not take this a full post mortem - or even an official one....
[13:12] Zero Linden: but, there have been some memory leaks in the code for multi-agent chat. So far, two have been fixed, but there appears to be a third
[13:12] Zero Linden: these are hard to find because they seem to only really leak with the server is stressed enough to start swapping
[13:13] Zero Linden: at that point, something isn't reaping some data structures fast enough and the whole thing snowballs
[13:14] Zero Linden: indeed - and as I understand it, this was all just supposed to be the server side push of some IM improvements,
[13:14] Zero Linden: Rex - actually, multi-agent chat is now handeded entirely by its own python process
[13:14] Zero Linden: actually, 16 of 'em on the central utility machines
[13:15] Zero Linden: Well - yes, though I don't think leaking in the sense of losing memory that is no longer reachable (Python's GC does work, as far as we know)
[13:16] Zero Linden: but as in there are things, like unused sessions and agent caches that under some condition or other isn't getting cleaned up fast enough
[13:16] Zero Linden: and thrashing python isn't pretty....
[13:18] Zero Linden: ah - I see from the internal IRC that the team has just caught one of these IM servers in the act!
[13:19] Zero Linden: Is Rob still here? and movement on the possibility of getting some of those files released?


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